Mike Woodson will be one of the Kings first interviews for their vacant coaching position. Woodson isn’t as hot a name as hires like Tom Thibodeau or Scott Brooks, or Luke Walton if he hits the market. In a league where everyone dreams of being the 73-9 Warriors who built a masterpiece of ball movement and pace, Woodson is a coach known for playing slow and isolating.
But coaching is weird. Last year the Pelicans strategy under Monty Williams seemed slow and antiquated, but nothing was wrong with the results. They won 45 games despite a bundle of injuries. The Pelicans thought hiring Warriors assistant Alvin Gentry would unlock the potential of their roster, but it backfired. Randy Wittman tried to make the Wizards faster and smaller to match John Wall’s strengths and it cost him the job. The Thunder finally replacing Scott Brooks with Billy Donovan didn’t lead to the team taking off.
With Mike Woodson, you can’t knock the results too badly. After the early rebuilding seasons in Hawks, he went on to average 45.6 wins his next five full seasons as coach, not counting the half season taking over for Mike D’Antoni in New York. He’s coached five playoff teams and made the 2nd round three times. With the Hawks he once won 53 games led by Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Jamal Crawford. In New York they won 54 led by Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler, Jason Kidd, J.R. Smith. Not that these teams weren’t talented, but it looks to me they won as much as you could ask of either roster. It’s not all sunshine and roses as Woodson was fired by the Knicks for a reason after they collapsed to 37 Ws, but the Knicks have only played worse in the two seasons since.
He also may fit the team. A team with DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay leading the way was never going to move the ball like the the Warriors or Spurs. The same strategy that led to success on teams with Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Jamal Crawford or Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith taking the most shots, may be the right fit for their strengths and weaknesses.
Mike Woodson is probably not the coaching hire that wins you a title, but after the last decade and the clock ticking until Cousins free agency, the Kings would kill for a nice, 45 W season right now. There’s a case he’s the best man for that job.
This rankings are based on my statistical system comparing players in steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, and points and TS% (adjusted for age and competition) to a list of recent future all-stars at their position. The statistical conclusions are then run through my talent adjustment system crediting players for physical tools, skill and basketball IQ.
1. PF Ben Simmons
Simmons is arguably the top statistical player in the draft. He has one of the best single categories in his 5.5 asts/40 compared to PFs. His 2.3 stls/40 is also elite for the position and has other strong numbers like 13.7 reb/40 and 22.6 pts/40 on .60 TS%. His weakest number in 0.9 blks/40 is partly explained by playing on the perimeter so much, thus a higher steal rate instead.
Scouts consider him a top 2 talent in the draft with Brandon Ingram. He has a great combination of athleticism and ballhandling that helped him get over 10 FTA/40. His passing and court vision is considered special. While his shooting is his weakness a 67% FT is not so bad for a big and could be encouraging for his mechanics going forward.
The mental make-up is the big concern. One of the most interesting things Gregg Popovich has said about the Spurs philosophy is they look for players who are “over themselves”. This is one of the best ways to describe that nagging feeling about Simmons you can’t put your finger on. He doesn’t look like he’s over himself.
In my attempts to retrodict previous drafts, a number of players flagged for mental make-up before the draft underperformed including Michael Beasley, Tyreke Evans, Rudy Gay, Terrence Williams, Derrick Williams, along with the Royce White disaster. This flags ranged to things as little as Gay’s motor getting questioned to Evans not playing with teammates well to Terrence Williams getting called immature. But this is a small sample size of players to take a trend from. And at the same time there’s successes like DeMarcus Cousins who went on to be a star and Andre Drummond who got called soft in college. Furthermore while it wasn’t picked up on in college, I consider a number of NBA stars to be at semi-enigmatic like Carmelo Anthony, James Harden and Kyrie Irving. If Simmons has the personality of Anthony or Irving, so long as he’s as good as them, picking him #1 will work out fine.
Nevertheless, is it something to worry about? Yes. But if not for that he would otherwise be a rare shoo-in to be an NBA all-star. There’s no Anthony Davis or Karl-Anthony Towns in this draft to rate over him, the next best alternatives have either talent or numbers deficiencies. So he will have to do.
2. PG Kris Dunn
Dunn’s numbers are also terrific. His combination of 3.0 stls/40, 0.6 blks/40, 6.5 reb/40 and 7.6 ast/40 is elite at PG. His scoring numbers are less impressive, starting as a 8.4 pts/40 .47 TS% freshman and eventually ending at 19.9 pts/40 on .54 TS% as a senior.
He fits the profile of an all-star guard. Having a great combination of athleticism, ballhandling and size for a PG could make him elite attacking the basket. While PG isn’t the most individual defense friendly position, he’s as good a defensive prospect as it gets there for what it’s worth.
Dunn’s shooting is also considered his weakness. Although he hit 37% from 3 it was on an average volume and he shot a mediocre 69% from the FT line. Still, this is better than the range of “broken” shooting prospects like Elfrid Payton and Tony Wroten. Dunn hitting 3s in the NBA regularly to complete his offensive game wouldn’t be that surprising.
Dunn is a skilled passer but his decision making is questioned. When added to his shooting, in worst case he could be throwing up a lot of bad jumpers. But overall he has the numbers and he has the physical potential to be an all-star.
3. C Chinanu Onuaku
This rating is statistically driven. As a 19 year old center he put up 3.3 blks/40, 1.3 stls/40, 13.8 reb/40, 2.7 ast/40, as impressive a combination as Simmons and Dunn. His scoring career wasn’t stellar with 6.7 pts/40 as a freshman and 16.1 pts/40 as as sophomore, albeit efficient at .60 TS% and .62 TS% respectively.
Onuaku doesn’t have the scouts blessing as he is projected 2nd round. Despite having athleticism, length and frame to his credit along with youth, he is considered a raw skill player in the post or shooting. Only hitting 58.9% FT helps back this up. To his credit he does appear to have passing skill.
But at center there’s a lot of value to defending the rim while finishing lobs on the other end and Onuaku has a good chance of being that player. Not to mention he can pass the ball and still has time to develop a little shooting game. While not as obvious an all-star talent as the top two prospects, his numbers and physical tools are too strong to ignore.
4. PG Wade Baldwin IV
Baldwin’s numbers are good but not as dominant as the above players. He has 6.9 ast/40, 5.3 reb/40, 1.6 stl/40 and 0.4 blk/40. He scored 12.8 pts/40 on .59 TS% as a freshman and 18.4 pts/40 on .57 TS% as a sopohomore.
But I otherwise love the skillset. He is a 40% 3pt shooter and 80% FT shooter with plus passing skill for his position who has excellent defensive measurables. His 6’10 wingspan is near SF-like and one of the longest for his position in the draft, along with a big frame and big hands. Getting shooters who can defend is now a high value play in the NBA.
For scouts his big weakness is average athleticism and ballhandling, leading to a lack of slashing game in the pros. One thing compelling about this is he’s one of the best at getting to the FT line in the class at 7.7 FTA/40 and at .61 has a higher FT/FGA than James Harden had in college. This doesn’t mean it’ll translate, as for example Adam Morrison averaged over 10 FTA/40 his last college year. But when Harden was in college despite his FT drawing success scouts predicted he would be a skilled but perimeter orientated pro, due to average athleticism. In the end Harden translated his slashing game to the pros and it completed his game and made him a star. If Baldwin learned to drive in the pros like he did in college, when added to his size, shooting and passing ability, it makes him a perfect guard.
5. SF Brandon Ingram
Ingram has good but not great numbers. His 1.6 blks/40 for a SF is a highlight and his 20 pts/40 on .55 TS% is very good for his age and conference. His 7.9 reb/40 and 1.3 stls/40 would be the lowest among recent all-star SFs which is a concern for his length. His 2.3 ast/40 is average but he wasn’t a ball dominant player.
There’s a lot to love as a talent. He has a center’s length in a wing’s body, great agility and a natural feel for the game. I’m a little lower on his shooting than conventional scouts. While he shot 41% from 3 on a high volume, he only hit 68.2% of FTs. He still has a chance to be a great shooter, but as a prospect I rate him as more like a 6 out of 10 as a shooter, not a 9 out of 10 like say college Kevin Durant. If I had him rated as an elite and not just decent shooting prospect, it probably would have been enough for me to rate him 2nd or 3rd in this class.
In the end Ingram has the talent and enough numbers to be an all-star, but I don’t consider him a home run prospect. This is partly from statistical reasons like his low steal and rebounds, and partly from a more lukewarm opinion of his shooting along with other weaknesses like a skinny frame and average ballhandling.
6. PF Dragan Bender
My statistical system is not built to rate international players, so this is about as high as a prospect can get on my list without having any numbers backing them up. With that said Bender barely getting onto the floor on a struggling team, also makes me give him less production benefit of the doubt than I would have for say Porzingis last year.
As a talent though he is one of the more interesting in the class. He has the length and mobility to be a defensive big, while shooting 3s and passing the ball. The team that drafts him may have eyes on “European Draymond Green”, or if Andrei Kirilenko came out now and played exclusively as a smallball PF. But he has to be actually good at that role for it to worth it, a player can have Draymond Green’s style of play but just Ersan Ilyasova’s level of effectiveness, or worse.
7. PG/SG Jamal Murray
Murray was a strong scorer for a freshman guard at 22.9 pts/40 on .59 TS%, against good competition. His 1.1 stls/40, 0.3 blks/40, 5.9 reb/40, 2.5 ast/40 is a mediocre remainder of his profile though. A scary comparison? This makes Murray’s year for SGs the equivalent of Anthony Bennett’s for PF at UNLV, who had a strong year in pts/40 and TS%, but was below average at everything else.
His talent is appealing though. While his 78% FT is good not great, his 41% from 3 on a massive 8.7 3PA/40 was enough to rate him as a top 5 shooter in the draft for me. His ability to both dribble and shoot at a high level is compelling. There aren’t that many in the NBA who succeed at both, compared to spot up shooters who don’t dribble or big slashing wings who don’t shoot. Many who succeed at both are great players like Steph Curry, James Harden, Damian Lillard, C.J. McCollum, Jamal Crawford. Murray adds that to what appears to be a natural feel for the game. Also to his credit, his season may have been affected by playing beside Tyler Ulis. If given the car keys at PG for a team, he may have helped his statistical profile more by putting up assists. Playing PG would also make his size more acceptable.
Overall, Murray is a risk with between his stats and being a guard with mediocre size and athleticism. But his shooting, dribbling and feel for the game has a lot of appeal and his numbers are more like the median for draft prospects in this class, while a prospect like Nik Stauskas for example had bad, not mediocre in his year. I value Murray’s statistical information about as valuable as much as Bender having no stats, for both it is better than having bad stats. In the case of both, that combined with appealing talent sets looks good enough for these spots once outside the top 5.
8. PF Brice Johnson
Brice has some impressive numbers including 15.0 reb/40, 2.1 ast/40, 1.5 stl/40 and 2.1 blk/40. As a scorer he’s been a high volume player from the start at 19.8 pts/40 as a freshman building to 23.7 pts/40 as a senior, but with efficiency improving from .50 TS% as a freshman to .65 TS% as a senior.
Johnson is an impressive athlete although with poor length and frame for his position. He has improved his skill level and hit 78% from the FT line this year showing shooting potential, but is most known for points around the rim. Johnson’s most likely future may be a Kenneth Faried style energy big, but he has the chance to develop a skill game.
I would have rated him 2 or 3 spots higher than this but he is tagged with immaturity and hothead issues. I don’t have the sample size of how much this effects a career and at least one hothead recently became a star in DeMarcus Cousins, but with prospects close to as appealing as him, it’s worth watching out for enough to drop him a few spots.
9. C Jakob Poeltl
Poeltl isn’t amazing anywhere statistically but has no bad categories either, with 0.8 stls/40, 2.0 blks/40, 12.0 reb/40, 2.5 ast/40 and a good scoring career with 15.7 pts/40 on .63 TS% as a freshman and 22.6 pts/40 on .66 TS% as a sophomore. Likewise as a talent he is well rounded with solid athleticism, good size, post skill and IQ. This is enough for scouts to project him as a top 10 pick. There are prospects with better numbers and prospects who rate higher as talents to me, but Poeltl’s appeal is being at least decent at both.
10. SG Ron Baker
Baker has impressive all around numbers of 1.9 stls/40, 0.7 blks/40, 6.1 reb/40 and 4.1 ast/40 for a guard. His scoring career has been average with 13.4 pts/40 on .59 TS% as a freshman and 17.4 pts/40 on .55 TS% as a senior. Both competition and age are adjusted for in scoring categories for me, so Baker only scoring that well as an old senior for Wichita State is definitely concerning.
Baker is barely projected to be drafted, so scouts aren’t a believer in him. I’m higher on his talent. First off he has good defensive measurables for a SG at 6’9.5 wingspan and 210 pounds. Athletically he may not be stunning, but he can move laterally which helped him put up steals and blocks and he got to the line at a respectable rate. The numbers suggest an average instead of bad athlete and so does my eye test.
He is a good but not great shooter with his 3pt dipping to 35% this year with a solid 78% FT. He is also a ball-handler and passer giving him some pick and roll potential. He is known for a high feel and motor. I don’t think Baker is the most talented player in the class but having length, strength, lateral mobility, 3pt shooting ability and feel is talent. Baker may not have star potential and there’s a chance scouts are right and he doesn’t make it, but at the 10th pick in a below average draft, a prospect doesn’t have to be amazing at this range. It wouldn’t surprise me if he carved out a Courtney Lee to Wes Matthews level career.
Current rankings from 11 to 30:
11. PF Ivan Rabb
12. PF Deyonta Davis
13. PF Domantas Sabonis
14. C Daniel Ochefu
15. SF Jaylen Brown
16. SF Timothe Luwawu
17. PF Thon Maker
18. SG Furkan Korkmaz
19. PF Zhou Qi
20. SF Taurean Prince
21. SG Buddy Hield
22. SG/SF Denzel Valentine
23. PF Nigel Hayes
24. C Diamond Stone
25. PG Gary Payton II
26. PF Henry Ellenson
27. SG Patrick McCaw
28. PF Marquese Chriss
29. PG Melo Trimble
30. C A.J. Hammons
By the end of Bryan Colangelo’s Raptors tenure he had gone from conquering hero to the goat. Misfires including drafting Andrea Bargnani 1st, going all in for a past his prime Jermaine O’Neal and giving Hedo Turkoglu 5 years, 50 million drove Chris Bosh to greener pastures in Miami and the team with a long playoff drought. After a few post Bosh rebuilding seasons, the team moved on.
But then something funny happened. Many of the pieces he left behind began to shine. The Kyle Lowry trade gave the team a future franchise point guard and will go down as one of the best in the team’s history. DeMar Derozan, drafted 9th in 2009 went on to blossom and make 2 all-star games and counting. 2011 5th overall pick Jonas Valanciunas is playing the best ball of his career on both ends since the all-star break. It will be no surprise if he’s an all-star in the East in an upcoming year. The Terrence Ross pick at 8th in 2012 was controversial for passing on future all-star Andre Drummond. While Ross hasn’t gone on to reach those heights his shooting and athleticism has made him an important part of the team. Colangelo also hired Dwane Casey who’s gone on to be the franchise’s most successful coach and played an integral role in the team’s strategic and cultural fabric. The end result has been three straight franchise record seasons and breaking 50 wins for the first time.
It’s not enough to just have the ingredients, one has to make them work. Masai Ujiri trading Rudy Gay and acquiring players such as Patrick Patterson, was the crucial step towards a team that fits. But much of the legwork Colangelo did in the years before his departure left the team a step away from success. As does the success of the Seven Seconds or Less era Suns and acquisitions of core pieces such as Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, Leandro Barbosa, Mike D’Antoni that brought them to the edge of a championship and into the hearts of all basketball fans, a shining gem to have on a resume.
When looking closer at Bryan Colangelo’s resume with the Suns and Raptors, there’s plenty of mishaps such as the contracts of Tom Gugliotta, Penny Hardaway in Phoenix or Jason Kapono, Hedo Turkoglu, Landry Fields in Toronto. But Steve Nash was once one of those aggressive signings. There’s been trades that backfired such as dealing for Jermaine O’Neal, or trading Jason Kidd for Stephen Marbury, but other trades have been huge successes such as bringing Kidd to Phoenix originally or Lowry to Toronto, or other trades such as Joe Johnson to Phoenix and Amir Johnson to Toronto. There’s been picks like Bargnani that flopped, but other picks such as Stoudemire, Marion or Derozan help redeem that resume. For the missed shots along the way, end result is that Colangelo has had an integral part in 3 successful cores, in the Kidd Suns, Nash Suns and Lowry Raptors.
In the end like almost everything about him, Colangelo is the opposite of Sam Hinkie. Sam Hinkie’s 76ers were supposed to be a win for process over results, for philosophy and exploiting market inefficiencies. Colangelo is a gunslinger where the theory and process doesn’t look great. But what he can say that Hinkie and other can’t, is he’s drafted all-stars, he’s traded for all-stars and he’s hired top coaches, and done it on several teams in each case, or eras on the same team. Perhaps this is all an illusion, a trick of correlation over causation. But maybe it’s not. Maybe something about Colangelo’s ultra-aggressiveness and player evaluation actually wins out in practice over more theoretically driven plans. In any case, with the recent success of the Raptors helping redeem his last few years of work there, there’s a good argument Colangelo’s three decade spanning resume is successful enough to deserve another go.
Sam Hinkie has stepped down as GM of the 76ers after the Jerry Colangelo takeover had made him a lame duck. The philosophical merits of his plan can be debated, but for me it’s his drafting that wasn’t successful enough for ownership to keep faith in him. If he was going to put all his eggs in one basket in the draft he had to crush it more than he has.
I thought this would be an opportunity to test my draft statistical system to see if it can outperform his picks. My system is based on six categories in steals, blocks, rebounds, assists, freshman points and freshman TS% compared to a list of recent future stars at each position.
To restrict my picks to realism, I will use these rules: For every pick, I will reach down the draft no further than 2x that pick, according to mock drafts. Meaning with the 1st overall pick, I can only select among the top 2 players in mock drafts. With the 10th overall pick, the pool of players expands to everyone mocked top 20. And it means with the 30th pick, everyone in the top 60 is fair game. I thought this reflects reality as by the 2nd round nothing is really considered a risk. I give myself a little flexibility if the situation asks for it. For example if a player is only one pick from the cut-off but would easily have the best stats if he had made it, it may be justified to cheat by one spot and include him in the player pool
I will go through it draft by draft
Here are my stat’s ratings for NCAA 1st round picks:
|SG||Tim Hardaway, Jr.||1.030927835|
International prospects in the 1st round include Giannis Antetokounmpo, Lucas Nogueira, Dennis Schroeder, Sergey Karasev, Rudy Gobert, Livio Jean-Charles, Nemanja Nedovic. Since my system isn’t built to rate international players, my simplistic way of accounting for it is to treat it as if they have the median score of the above players, which in this case is 1.018. This gives them a limited upside, but it also allows them to avoid a poor rating.
Draftexpress has this as their last mocked top 30 in 2013:
- Nerlens Noel
- Victor Oladipo
- Otto Porter
- Alex Len
- Ben McLemore
- Trey Burke
- CJ McCollum
- Anthony Bennett
- Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
- Cody Zeller
- Steven Adams
- Kelly Olynyk
- Michael Carter-Williams
- Shane Larkin
- Sergey Karasev
- Dennis Schroeder
- Giannis Antetokounmpo
- Shabazz Muhammad
- Reggie Bullock
- Tim Hardaway, Jr.
- Lucas Nogueira
- Mason Plumlee
- Isaiah Canaan
- Jamaal Franklin
- Allen Crabbe
- Rudy Gobert
- Gorgui Dieng
- Jeff Withey
- Tony Mitchell
- Pierre Jackson
After trading Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia has the #6 and #11 pick. For the #6 pick, using my rule of 2x the draft position, this makes everyone in the top 12 on Draftexpress mock eligible except for Anthony Bennett, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, Cody Zeller and Alex Len as they had been picked already. That leaves these players as options:
Nerlens Noel – 1.13
Ben McLemore – 1.05
Trey Burke – 1.11
C.J. McCollum – 1.01
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope – 1.15
Steven Adams – 1.06
Kelly Olynyk – 0.94
Of those players Caldwell-Pope rates highest at 1.15. However Michael Carter-Williams at 1.25 would be easily the highest rating of that group and he just misses the cut-off as 13th on Draftexpress.com’s mock. Based on his numbers I feel justified stretching my rule here and taking the player just outside the cut-off in Carter-Williams. In this case since Caldwell-Pope is arguably the more valuable NBA player right now, it doesn’t benefit my system that I cheated to take Carter-Williams.
With the 6th overall pick the Philadelphia 76ers select PG Michael Carter-Williams
For the #11 pick the remaining player pool is
Steven Adams – 1.06
Kelly Olynyk – 0.94
Shane Larkin – 0.91
Sergey Karasev – Intl. (1.018)
Dennis Schroeder – Intl. (1.018)
Giannis Antetokounmpo – Intl. (1.018)
Shabazz Muhammad – 0.59
Reggie Bullock – 0.91
Tim Hardaway, Jr. – 1.03
Lucas Nogueira – Intl. (1.018)
However since I just picked a player in the top 10 in Carter-Williams that wasn’t there originally, it makes sense to bump the 10th overall pick C.J. McCollum down one spot and treat him as available at the 11th pick I feel. McCollum’s rating is 1.01
At 1.06 Steven Adams has the highest rating, followed by Hardaway at 1.03. This is also in range of the NCAA median and international prospects makeshift rating of 1.018. Ultimately while it would be nice to say my system picks Giannis or Gobert, at the time of the draft Steven Adams had a lot of what they did, as a physically gifted young talent but raw. When added to his positive numbers he is the pick.
With the 11th overall pick the Philadelphia 76ers select C Steven Adams
Here are my ratings for the 2014 draft for 1st round NCAA prospects
The median of the above players is .993. The international prospects selected in Round 1 include Dante Exum, Dario Saric, Jusuf Nurkic, Bruno Caboclo, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic.
Here is Draftexpress.com’s last 1st round mock
- Andrew Wiggins
- Jabari Parker
- Joel Embiid
- Dante Exum
- Aaron Gordon
- Marcus Smart
- Julius Randle
- Elfrid Payton
- Doug McDermott
- Noah Vonleh
- Jusuf Nurkic
- Nik Stauskas
- Zach LaVine
- TJ Warren
- Dario Saric
- Rodney Hood
- Gary Harris
- Adreian Payne
- Shabazz Napier
- Tyler Ennis
- Mitch McGary
- Clint Capela
- Jordan Adams
- J. Hairston
- James Young
- Jarnell Stokes
- Glenn Robinson
- Kyle Anderson
- Spencer Dinwiddie
- Bogdan Bogdanovic
With Philadelphia’s 3rd overall pick the pool of players to pick from:
Joel Embiid – 1.30
Dante Exum – Intl. (.993)
Aaron Gordon – 0.86
Marcus Smart – 1.16
Clearly this is a tough call to make, especially without the access to medical reports the Sixers had at the time. The next closest player Smart is both behind him by a wide margin and doesn’t fit the Sixers at all with their rookie of the year Michael Carter-Williams profile. The Sixers have another lottery pick to help stomach the wait for Embiid and Steven Adams as insurance at C. Unless his reports were truly dire, I feel this pick is Embiid.
With the 3rd overall pick, the Philadelphia 76ers select C Joel Embiid
The Sixers started with the 10th pick but traded back to 12 to take Dario Saric. Since they were likely just moving back to take the player they wanted anyways, I’ll treat it as if I’m keeping 10. The player pool for this pick is
Elfrid Payton – 1.10
Doug McDermott – 0.84
Jusuf Nurkic – Intl. (.993)
Zach LaVine – 0.90
T.J. Warren – 0.87
Dario Saric – Intl. (.993)
Rodney Hood – 0.88
Gary Harris – 1.07
Adreian Payne – 0.72
Shabazz Napier – 0.98
Tyler Ennis – 1.01
Mitch McGary – 1.15
The highest rating of those players is McGary at 1.15 however this is based off a just under 200 minute season with his injury shut down. Furthermore he’s a bad fit on the Sixers as they just drafted 2 lotto Cs in Adams and Embiid and don’t need to take another injured player after the latter.
Next is Elfrid Payton at 1.10, but he’s an impossible fit playing with Michael Carter-Williams unless they’re willing to trade him. Jordan Adams is at 1.10 but as the 23rd mocked player is 2 spots outside of the cut-off, and only marginally ahead of Gary Harris at 1.07. With a much smaller gap between them and 2 picks out, I don’t see the same justification to cheat as I did for Carter-Williams.
I feel the pick is between Payton despite the poor fit or taking Harris. Based on a relatively small difference between them in the numbers, I believe the fit of Harris as a 3pt shooting wing beside Carter-Williams is worth giving him the edge.
With the 10th overall pick (or 12th), the Philadelphia 76ers select SG Gary Harris.
Here are the 1st round NCAA players ratings
The median is about .979. The international players in the 1st are Kristaps Porzingis, Mario Hezonja, Emmanuel Mudiay, Nikola Milutoniv.
Draftexpress.com’s mock draft for 2015
- Karl Towns
- Jahlil Okafor
- D’Angelo Russell
- Kristaps Porzingis
- Mario Hezonja
- Justise Winslow
- Emmanuel Mudiay
- Stanley Johnson
- Frank Kaminsky
- Cameron Payne
- Myles Turner
- Trey Lyles
- Devin Booker
- Willie Cauley-Stein
- Kelly Oubre
- Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
- Bobby Portis
- Tyus Jones
- Jerian Grant
- Sam Dekker
- Delon Wright
- Rashad Vaughn
- J. Hunter
- Montrezl Harrell
- Jarell Martin
- Justin Anderson
- Kevon Looney
- Cliff Alexander
- Chris McCullough
- Terry Rozier
For Sixers 3rd pick, their player pool is
Jahlil Okafor – 0.93
Kristaps Porzingis – Intl. (.979)
Mario Hezonja – Intl. (.979)
Justise Winslow – 1.17
This one is the easiest pick. Okafor’s numbers are below average and Porzingis and Hezonja are international players, while Winslow has excellent numbers. If one came up with a system reliably projecting Porzingis stats it could be a competiton, but I’ll go with Winslow here.
With the 3rd overall pick, the 76ers select SF Justise Winslow.
In the end the Hinkie Sixers got Michael Carter-Williams, Nerlens Noel, Joel Embiid, Dario Saric, Jahlil Okafor. My team got Michael Carter-Williams, Steven Adams, Joel Embiid, Gary Harris, Justise Winslow. I would say my system did no better. Adams is a productive young big but Noel has potential to pass him going forward. I prefer having the bird in the hand in Harris than two in the bush in Saric. Okafor scored more than Winslow did, but Winslow is playing an important role on a good team and it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if he ended up having a better career.
To make Hinkie’s draft record a home run you probably needed the international prospects like Giannis and Porzingis, and I can’t say my system was set up to do that, nor perhaps could anybody’s.
Buddy Hield continued his torrid play with 37 points to lead Oklahoma to the Final Four. With mock drafts wide open after Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram, Hield’s play could lead towards a top 3 pick.
Hield’s run comes at the perfect time for him. With Stephen Curry at the peak of powers it’s hard not to compare his run to Curry’s as an older, elite shooting, hard working prospect at Davidson.
To look closer at this comparison here are their per 40 minute stats their draft year:
Curry (junior): 34.0 points, .60 TS%, 5.3 rebounds, 6.6 assists, 3.0 steals, 0.3 blocks, 4.4 turnovers
Hield (senior): 28.9 points, .67 TS%, 6.4 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 1.3 steals, 0.6 blocks, 3.3 turnovers
Unlike Hield Curry was elite in another category but scoring, in steals. Hield’s best performances compared to Curry are rebounds and blocks, but these are partly explained by playing the bigger defensive position SG.
While PG is a more assists friendly position than SG, the gap is a little too big to be explained by that. The median per 40 assist rate of seven PGs I chose in Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Damian Lillard, Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, is 6.5. The same for seven SGs in James Harden, Dwyane Wade, DeMar Derozan, Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson, C.J. McCollum, Brandon Roy is 4.3 assists. Therefore Curry’s assists compared to his position is stronger. While Hield’s role was to be an off the ball scorer, this could also be reflective of Hield lacking ballhandling skills that has made Curry such a success.
I find scoring a tricky category due to the impact of age and conference. With less talent on his team at Davidson Curry was able to have a major role immediately. As a freshman he averaged 27.8 points on .62 TS% per 40, as a sophomore 31.2 points on .64 TS% and as junior 34.0 points on .60 TS%. Hield as a freshman averaged just 12.8 points on .47 TS% per 40 minutes, followed by 20.6 points on .57 as a sophomore and 21.5 points on .55 TS% as a junior.
To make another comparison to other sharpshooters in this class, Jamal Murray averaged 22.7 points per 40 on .59 TS%. As a freshman Grayson Allen averaged 19.1 points on .58 TS% per 40 and as a sophomore 24.0 points on .62 TS%. As freshman and sophomores they outscored Hield. The problem with using Hield’s scoring as a reason to draft him over Murray and Allen is it’s not a big leap to say they were on trajectory to match Hield’s senior scoring rate of 28.9 points on .67 TS% per 40 if they stayed in school long enough.
As a whole I don’t believe the numbers support Hield as a top 5 pick. He is not as dominant in categories like rebounding, assists, steals or blocks as some other prospects in the class and overweighting scoring numbers that blew up for a senior compared to freshman and sophomore prospects, has burned teams in the past.
But the Curry comparison may work in another way. The real story of Curry falling to #7 in 2009 is underestimating his talent. At the time 2009 was considered a 1 star draft, with Blake Griffin having athletic gifts that players like Curry and James Harden lacked. We know now you can’t teach how to shoot like Curry any more than teaching a player to be as athletic as Russell Westbrook. Nor is Harden’s combination of elite size for a SG but the dribbling and passing of a PG, any more common than Griffin level athleticism.
This is where the case for Hield may be. What he lacks in only having good, not great athleticism, may be made up for special talent as a shooter. This talent could be as powerful as dynamic athleticism is for others. Hield is having arguably the best shooting season since Curry. While in a vacuum 46% 3pt shooting could be a hot streak, two important ways to legitimizing shooting is FT% and volume of 3s attempted. Hield is even more impressive in those than he is in 3p%, as an 89% FT shooter who attempts 10 3s per 40 minutes. Visually his shooting release and confidence taking them anywhere passes the sniff test. Hield has an average wingspan of 6’8.5 for a SG, but a better than average body. His last measured 215 pounds is the weight of a SF, not SG. His mental attributes are considered terrific in both basketball IQ and work ethic/character, which some see as talent. The shooting is the foundation of his game but decent athleticism, plus strength and top level mental talent all around, could add enough to make him a star talent. Perhaps it’s enough to be the most talented player in the draft.
At the end of the day however, the numbers still make it a risk. Hield may be properly rated by accident, with worse numbers than conventional opinion but more star-level talent. There’s definitely a world where he pays off big time for the team who picks him, but also one where the numbers were prescient.
The Warriors need to win 8 of their last 10 games to beat the Bulls 72-10 all time record. With no worry about playoff chops after winning last year’s title, in almost any other year the playoffs would be a formality. However their party may be spoiled by the Spurs.
Here are the top 10 margins of victory of all time
1971-1972 L.A. Lakers: 12.28
1970-1971 Milwaukee Bucks: 12.26
1995-1996 Chicago Bulls: 12.24
2015-2016 San Antonio Spurs: 12.11
1971-1972 Milwaukee Bucks: 11.16
2015-2016 Golden State Warriors: 11.13
1996-1997 Chicago Bulls: 10.80
1991-1992 Chicago Bulls: 10.44
2007-2008 Boston Celtics: 10.26
2014-2015 Golden State Warriors: 10.10
Out of the over 1,000 NBA seasons, San Antonio’s margin of victory is in the top five. It was briefly first for a stretch this season.
Furthermore, of the 8 teams on that list that aren’t this season’s Warriors and Spurs, all but the 1971-1972 Bucks were champion. The Bucks lost to another team on the list in the 1972 Lakers. Short of playing each other teams this good have been unbeatable.
The Warriors offensive rating is 4 points better than the Spurs, but the Spurs defensive rating is 5.8 points better than the Warriors, who in their title season had the top ranked defense. The Spurs have a top 2 defensive rebounding team to the Warriors 15th. The Spurs dominance derives more from their bench than the Warriors does. The Spurs are dominating in quieter ways than the Warriors.
Still, on paper it just doesn’t seem like this is a historically good roster, right? One blind spot may be Kawhi Leonard. In the modern game teams are getting better at recognizing seasons like DeMarre Carroll, Danny Green and Draymond Green’s 2014-2015’s for reasons beyond their boxscore output. Without taking a shot their defending while spacing the floor for teammates is highly valued. This is shown by their salaries last summer.
Kawhi is a mega version of this. He’s not just a good defender but the reigning Defensive Player of the Year, perhaps soon to repeat. In the past it would have been difficult for a perimeter player to compete with rim protecting big men like Ben Wallace, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett for defensive value. However with the game moving towards a smaller perimeter game, it makes perfect sense the new best defensive player is built like Kawhi. He’s hitting over 46% from 3, good for the 2nd best mark in the league. There’s highly valued spacing and defense wings and then there’s Kawhi.
What makes him a freak is he starts with this baseline of star level value without taking a shot, and then adds star level stats on top of it too. Due to his 21 points a game on .619 TS% with a low turnover rate, he rates 8th in offensive win shares, a stat that full on ignores his defense and spacing. He’s a star outside of the stats and a star in them. On the Warriors title team last year Draymond was a star for providing spacing and top 3 defense and Klay for all-star boxscore stats. Kawhi is like getting this package 2 for 1.
Whether it’s because Kawhi has reached Curry levels of value or not, or whether it’s because the rest of the Spurs cast in including Gregg Popovich, Lamarcus Aldridge, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Patty Mills, David West, Boris Diaw, Danny Green have reached a special level in their own right, the numbers suggest the Warriors could come all this way and not leave with the title, much like the defending champion 1971-1972 Bucks. Because the record of teams with the margin of victory the Spurs have is not messing around and they may be buoyed by a true star.
This was the make or break year for Trey Burke. A 3rd season is an important one for prospects finding their footing anyways, but after Dante Exum’s injury left Utah with the most PG-less situation in the league a good version of Burke would have played 30 minutes a game. After getting beat out by Shelvin Mack and Raul Neto, even on this team Burke is a DNP-CD by March.
If his career trajectory continues Burke’s legacy may as a cautionary tale for undersized PGs. Coming out of Michigan for his skill level, feel and production scouts were worried he wasn’t big enough. While there are small PGs who continue to succeed like Isaiah Thomas and Kemba Walker, as long as Trey Burke and D.J. Augustin and the next versions exist, it gives teams a reason to be fearsome of PGs they don’t love the size of, along with any small but productive player at other positions.
But there may be a logic flaw in this judgment. First off for the philosophical purposes of post we’ll pretend Burke is more undersized than he is, when his measurements of 6’1.25 in shoes, 187 pounds and 6’5.5 wingspan is as close as it gets to the average of top 30 PGs in Draftexpress.com’s combine database of 6’1.14 in shoes, 186 pounds and 6’5.3 wingspan. With Burke it’s more of the absence of plus size, rather than negative size, but nonetheless.
What we know is Burke had mediocre size and he has so far failed. But we don’t know how he failed. Prospects fail for a multitude of reasons of not being athletic enough, not being skilled enough, not being a smart enough player, not being tough enough, not working hard enough, not being confident enough. Virtually every draft pick who struggles, can blame more than one of the things on that list. Therefore it’s hard to determine which one felled them. Burke’s size may play a part in his struggles, but he was also rated no more than an average athlete in college. After shooting 38.4% from 3 his sophomore season at Michigan, his jumpshot has disappointed with a career mark of 32.4% from distance. After his highly intelligent game manager role in college, Burke has been more of a shoot-first player in the NBA, perhaps out of necessity with other holes in his game. This is before considering other plausible reasons he could be struggling such as toughness or confidence that I’m not in position to judge.
With these combined weaknesses in size, athleticism or shooting just at the top at the list, it’s hard to just pin it on size as the problem without the chance of mixing up correlation for causation. Burke’s former teammate Nik Stauskas is a 6’6 player who struggles to drive to the basket, defend and has come in under college expectations as a 3pt shooter. So effectively, he is a tall Trey Burke and the extra height hasn’t helped him much. The real reasons Burke is struggling could just be the same as Stauskas for all we know, or many, many other prospects who didn’t lack size for their position but failed for reasons like athleticism or disappointing shooting. Some players that are current stars like Chris Paul and Kyle Lowry have no size advantage on Burke, but it’s the other factors like athleticism, skill, IQ, toughness that is carrying them to games that are light years ahead of his. Regardless of how much his size hurts him, Burke clearly is lacking a variety of non-size attributes, the traits that make stars out of Pauls and Lowrys, that would make him a far better player than he’s been.
All other things equal, it’s obviously better to have more size than not, but it’s hard to be confident that it’s the only dagger that fells a prospect like Burke. It’s not the only weakness in his game.