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The sneaky high talent and upside of Eric Maynor

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Eric Maynor

Eric Maynor (Photo credit: Keith Allison)

I like using my talent evaluation system to measure developing players in the NBA, as much as draft prospects. Which available player has the potential to be a steal?

One guy I really like is Eric Maynor. Conventional wisdom says Maynor’s lack of results as a nearly 26 year old backup point guard in his 4th season, makes him a surefire long term backup. But did you know because of only playing 9 Gs his 3rd season and otherwise limited minutes, Maynor has only played 3511 minutes so far, regular season and playoff combined? 2nd year PGs Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker have 4090 and 4070 minutes so far, while Kyrie Irving even with all his injuries, is sitting at 3279. Maynor has the minutes played of most 2nd year lottery picks. I tend to believe 6000-8000 minutes is a good benchmark for when a player hits “he is what he is” range in all likelihood. For example before this season, other 2009 picks Jrue Holiday had 7546 minutes played, while Stephen Curry had 6117 before taking their games to another level. Darren Collison, widely seen as a doppelganger for Maynor’s career, is at 8633 minutes now, 6698 before this season – way more than Maynor. If one connects minutes as the biggest indicator of development, Maynor’s is well within range to make breaking out and taking his game to another level, plausible.

Here is my breakdown of Maynor:

His standout trait for talent, is his feel for the game. Maynor is a tremendously smooth player as if he’s playing on water, always under control and aware of teammates – playing the “game manager” role he’s been known for since VCU. Maynor’s feel for the game is exceptional.

Maynor is a respectable outside shooter, hitting .348 from 3 for his career, at a rate of 1.2 3PM/3.3 3PA per 36 minutes for his career. He shows deep outside range which is an encouraging sign. Because of his great ballhandler, Maynor is also quite strong at creating his own perimeter jumpshot from midrange. He also is a skilled finisher with a great floater. Maynor hasn’t been a dynamic threat shooting from the perimeter and only a .746 from the FT line for his career is middling, so I wouldn’t give him an elite grade here as a skill impact talent, but average to solid seems warranted.

What most would consider his weakness is physical tools and talent. True, he’s not a breathtaking athlete and while having solid height at 6’3, doesn’t have a huge frame. But his first step is solid and more importantly, his elite ballhandling helps him get by opponents and drive into the paint. He has respectable ability to slash and create points attacking the paint.

Here is some videos showing evidence of these talents:

First off, throughout these videos his feel for the game is easy to spot and obvious. He’s smooth, under control, able to adjust and finding teammates well. Now a breakdown of his physical impact and skill impact plays:

At 0:04 he shows the quickness to get in the paint and the skill to score with a floater.

At 0:08 he once again drives into the paint and finds an open man, after the defense rotates.

At 0:41 and 1:15 he scores 3pters, with excellent looking form on his shot and deep range.

At 0:50 he once again shows how he has the speed and ballhandling to slashing, driving past an opponent and drawing a foul

At 0:02, he uses his speed, ballhandling and finishing skill to drive to the paint and score

At 0:23 he uses his ballhandling to cross-over and create a jumpshot off the dribble

At 0:48, 1:10, he once again scores 3s with deep range

At 1:02 he impressively drives into the paint and scores

At 1:36 he shows his speed catching a pass and driving to the rim

Wrapping up, my grades for Maynor are the following:

Maynor’s feel for the game is clearly exceptional, if one of the best in the league. He makes the game look “natural”, at an easy pace and under control. My grade for him in feel for the game talent is 9.

He shows a solid ability to create plays attacking the basket off the dribble, with reasonable speed but great ballhandling. He’s not a top flight athlete and could be stronger, but has enough for my grade for in physical impact talent to be 5 or 6.

His upside may depend on his skill impact. Although not an elite shooter from outside or the line yet, his form is terrific, he has deep range showing confidence in his shot and his ability to create jumpshots off the dribble looks great. I will give Maynor a grade of 5 or 6 in skill impact talent through by the time he’s played 10,000 minutes, it’s not inconceivable he hits a higher level than that.

My overall grade for Maynor is thus 19-21, which is a score worthy of a true “blue chip” PG and a player just below all-star status.

His talent reminds me a lot of Mike Conley, Jr., who has an exceptional feel for the game and enough slashing and perimeter scoring, to be a blue chip and championship caliber PG. I feel Conley, Jr. is more explosive athletically, but Maynor has an even better feel for the game and more upside as a shooter. It will be interesting to see if he lands with the right opportunities to prove himself a starting PG, or whether he’ll toil as a backup for some time longer in a spot with an established franchise PG like Portland. I believe Maynor is one of the more underrated young talents in the game and a team grabbing Maynor for cheap this summer would find considerable upside in it.


Written by jr.

March 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm

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The Oklahoma City Thunder and the Danger of Too Much Patience

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In a few short years the Oklahoma City Thunder have become the belle of the ball. With two superstars under 24 in Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and other young talent like Jeff Green, Thabo Sefolosha, James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Eric Maynor and Cole Aldrich they appear set for a decade of contention which has drawn the envy of most fans around the league

Just not this year. Oh they’re good. On pace for a 55 win season or so. But they lack a true interior defensive and rebounding presence. A few more playoff dependable veterans would help a playoff run too.

Sam Presti seems content with this not being the Thunder’s year. His mantra has always been looking at the future over the present and choosing draft picks and cap flexibility over expensive veterans – and that eventually players like Ibaka, Aldrich, and Harden will provide the interior defense and supporting scoring needed.

But should he give up on this year? Durant and Westbrook could be the best two guys on a championship team right now. They’re that good. To sacrifice a year of their primes is giving up a lot. Presti should double take on what he’s giving up. Years of possible contention with prime superstars is the scarcest of resources. Ask Jazz and Suns fans. You always want more.

The future could hold problems for the Thunder they presently avoid. Injuries could befall them like it has the Portland Trailblazers recently. The salary commitment to their young talent is about to balloon and squeeze their depth and flexibility. Increased salary means depreciated value to the supporting young guys and less expiring contracts to facilitate deals with – all their trade chips they’re loaded with now will disappear. Perhaps most importantly is the Miami Heat factor. The Heat are already dominating and have no PG, C or bench. The Heat with depth may make the 2012, 2013, and 2014 titles unattainable. Thus giving up on 2011 could end up a very regrettable decision for the Thunder.

The Thunder can make a contender right now by shopping Harden, Sefolosha, Ibaka, Aldrich, Maynor and picks for an interior defender and a veteran bench. Those are the final pieces and OKC easily has the chips to get them. Anderson Varejao is available. Nene Hilario will likely be if Melo is traded. Ben Gordon and Stephen Jackson are available. These are the players who can take them over the top. With big contracts they wouldn’t take much to get either – leaving young assets to spare for the Thunder

Tradeable young players differs the Thunder from teams like Utah and New Orleans. The Hornets and Jazz have had 50 win teams on the fringe of contention the last few years, but a lack of young assets and bad contracts and luxury tax issues in their place made trades difficult. If the Thunder wait too long they will find themselves in a similar situation. Their young assets will turn into paid veterans, unmoveable contracts will replace expirings. And the oppurtunity to make the leap won’t be there.

Thus the patience that has been their strength and calling card may end up their undoing.

Written by jr.

January 4, 2011 at 9:13 pm